Curse

Leighwyn · May 27, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by Esan

They are most certainly not correct unless you can complete the actual run in 30-40 seconds, which is impossible. It requires 20-30 seconds to run to the portal from the spawn points. At an inhumanly high rate of 50 runs per hour, this will take 10^7/(50*800) = 250 hours. This is nearly 11 straight days of bot-like tenacity, which explains why half the people in Melandru's Hope are botting it.

Maxing it manually will take between 350 and 500 hours.

When I said the numbers were correct, I meant his 12.5k runs. My statement was in reply to someone pointing out the lack of double HFF faction weekends, and how it didn't affect what was stated because he'd forgotten to double for donating to Alliance anyway.

I'd say that somewhere around 300 hours is more reasonable for a time; like you said, the 1 minute total per run just isn't possible.

Jhadur · May 27, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by Esan

They are most certainly not correct unless you can complete the actual run in 30-40 seconds, which is impossible. It requires 20-30 seconds to run to the portal from the spawn points. At an inhumanly high rate of 50 runs per hour, this will take 10^7/(50*800) = 250 hours. This is nearly 11 straight days of bot-like tenacity, which explains why half the people in Melandru's Hope are botting it.

Maxing it manually will take between 350 and 500 hours.

I did say that I was making very rough calculations.

**cosyfiep** · May 27, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

and you still can add those into the vanquishing of those areas---killing all those mobs off in hardmode gets you lots of faction as well (and as I mentioned you can always play while drunk so you dont need the extra 10+days....since it takes what an hour or so to vanquish an area x how many areas???)

lots of the titles can be done concurrently....like mapping and vanquishing at the same time while also capping a boss for the skills and getting some faction as well............

Zebideedee · May 28, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41

Hats off to the guy/gal that maxed those titles, but lets face it, they are just testiment to either A: Dedication, B: Addiction, or C: Greed, we can all speculate, I just hope the guy/gal that done them, is a proud owner

Zehnchu · May 28, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by Dronte

So I heard reading posts above you waz gud.

oh can I have my own fan-boi

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Originally Posted by Musei Karasu

Map in, map out. Like someone already said, it's a trick to get drunkard.

Thought they fixed that in an old update, guess they didn't. Like the AFK LB and SS rez trick was killed at the same time and oh yeah they added a tier. Yet I did try the GH zone and it didn't work.

Drop of Fear · May 28, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

ahaha very funny to read this discussion.

just a couple of points first: A- i don't consider myself good, if i was good i would be playing in any decent gvg guilds as that's what i consider guild wars about

B- yes that was my only character since factions, if u exclude a lvl5 elementalist in presearing i barely play

i played a lot that's granted, approx 4300 hours these last 24 months, something around a thousand of which afk on rings, spamadan, bla bla bla. i'm not even debating about wether or not 3300-3500kish hour played across 2 years is considered hardcore, nerdy, nolife or [insert random word here], as i'm not bringing arguements about "hey how mych di U play?". i just don't care.
i work my usual 7-8hours/day 5 days a week, i'm not married and thankfully i have no infant running around the house to be take care of.

it's impressive how everyone here forgot to mention the most important thing in playing a game like this: the fun factor.
i'm not writing here to give lessons or to teach anything about playing for fun etc, would be pointless and boring, i'm just wondering how's possible that the fun factor is the last thing considered in guild wars, specialy in the title hunters comunity? i enjoyed every second of guild wars.
in may 2007, before eotn came out, i had every title but chests-wisdom, kurz-luxon and lucky-unlucky. i was enjoying playing and i wanted to boost my save yourself pve skill... when i saw the 2x faction weekend i joined CAT with the intention to farm r4 in a weekend (10k donated were 40k in the title bar you know) then leave.
I found it to be very funny, ppl still used to run together, the hfff and bot disease still wasn't there. there was the doorman, the shoreguy, the stairsman, the bridge and the mushroom runner, and of course the leechers and the afkers

and guess what, it was FUUUUUUN.
It was fun to shout words at the guys who made the team waste 10 seconds because of a chest they wanted to open, it was fun to take de-tours when stairs-guy died in the middle of the lake, it was fun to see 4 ppl running shore and noone doing mushrooms

The runs were fun, the chatting with crazy people was fun, the thrill of rushing sins to house zu heltzer was fun (CAT and SINS stole hzh from each other a number of times in the following weeks). this said, at the end of the weekend my title bar said 1.880.000 and i just decided to go on aiming at a 5 seconds save yourself, then a 6 seconds one. Once there, saviour was close and decided to finish that title-track.
didn't bot a single run of it, ran with humans till r10 then started flagging heroes cuz it was still fun, but i wanted to do it fast.
when i was at work i even had a nice guy [zha dum sin] flagging heroes for me in the morning so i just had to take rewards and i was even able to work

did 50k a day for at least 3 weeks like that. By the end of the summer i had my saviour, just in time for eye of the north.

Played Eye of the North with many nice people, reached 30 maxed titles the first eotn HM weekend, simply vanquishing and delivering dungeon,hero books, havent farmed a single point (2x reputation weekend helped a lot).
i was done with eotn and decided to join [thpk], in [any] alliance with a couple of CAT saviours, to hunt for few luxon points
I found many nice people in thpk aswell, i just wasn't happy with the general attitude of the alliance: there was a full guild of mount quinai botters, and many people talked about exploiting bugs here and there; when i heard about old CAT saviours forming their own luxon alliance (knights of perfection) i jumped on the train just before it left the station...

Not surprisingly about 2 weeks later tens of people from [any] and allies, including leader of [any] himself and many officers got permabanned for exploiting a bug/hack related to the mallyx-hidden-outpost situation. thpk and another big guild left their alliance.
With [any] leader being permabanned, we had 2 months to "conquer" Cavalon taking advantage of [any] being 2 guilds short, and we did it...
Knights was growing and growing, still having fun farming the arena quest, ab (well not me

) or HM boss runs in gyala hatchery.
We took Cavalon from [any] a handfull of times (back when their alliance still had 8 guilds because [any] permabanned leader couldn't invite new ones

).

That's when [any] officers got angry and tried everything to break our alliance apart. They offered future membership in [any] (future=still banned leader) to our guilds to force them leaving the alliance, had terrorists joining our guild to insult ppl on AC making guild leave etc... it was just FUN, they broke our alliance 3-4 times and we always found new guilds to take Cavalon back

About money:
-i wasn't a money farmer guy, i only had many raptors run during the special drops weekends.
-2 saviours profited me around 3 milions
-chestrunning HM is not a money sink at all. my main source of income were elite tomes. it's a paradox: the more people believe chestrunning is a money sink, the less people actualy run, the more elite tomes are valuable allowing few chestrunners to earn money. i was fine with that for months

-i've been lucky enough to foresee the coming of the party animal title and bought 3 pvp mules worth full of party items in late 2007, do the math yourself to understand what that meant for my storage when the title actualy came.
-proof of the above http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10226002
-more proof of the above http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...1&postcount=31

without any leadership skills or devoting time organizing the alliance (thanks to Aso Sin, Charmane Dweller and many others in old and new CAT) i managed to be officer and leader (tho for few hours) in both House Zu Heltzer and Cavalon alliances.
I reached both saviours still having fun played 99% farm free and had enough money for my titles and some fancy weapons. I never bought fow armor in 2 years because i didn't like it.
I played guild wars a lot and enjoyed every second of it. that's something i will not apologies for

Laylat · May 28, 2008, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Well said, Drop of Fear. People forget why they play the game sometimes; because it's fun! For me, the most fun was the vanquishing title track when it first came out. The best part of it was when me and my guildies would set our skills up in preparation for a particular zone--and watch it fail miserably :P

masta_yoda · May 28, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20

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Originally Posted by fenix

But there's a 70 million gold difference between rank 10 and rank 12...so really, still gonna be ages.

Not only that, there was an issue of duping keys or SOMETHING that allowed massive rank increases, or at least that's what I think happened.

its pretty easy to get z keys as gvger...

this person had silver trim and had this many z keys and claiming he had another 5000 zkeys for sale, i believe top gvgers can make more than anyone can make in 1 year in ats a month

odly · May 28, 2008, 12:14 PM // 12:14

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot

The only title i can respect is LS on a PVP only character.

That would get one hell of a lot of zaishen killed.

Arduin · May 28, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22

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Originally Posted by cebalrai

Post your /age for us, will ya?

Reading prior posts before posting yourself ftw.

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

i played a lot that's granted, approx 4300 hours these last 24 months, something around a thousand of which afk on rings, spamadan, bla bla bla.

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Mod edit: Could you people PLEASE stop quoting the bloody picture all the time?

I think Drop of Fear shows how you are able to acquire a lot of Titles, if you simple aim for it, and show some dedication.

Of course it is 10x times as easy when you are also having fun while doing it, the main reason why I am not hardcore farming chests, but open a score of 50 once in a while. It takes some time maxing the titles, but at least I won't get bored with it.

Theo Godscythe · May 28, 2008, 12:35 PM // 12:35

Meh, Legendary Survivor...considering LDoA

jiggles · May 28, 2008, 12:50 PM // 12:50

at above poster, one person in the game has em both, due to a bug in presearing
so nyeh

Killed u man · May 28, 2008, 01:58 PM // 13:58

^ Ye, that's me

Why do people take it so offensivly when I say he probably doesn't have much of a life, no offence Drop.

I myself have like, half a life, and so do most people posting here...

Look, average day= 24 hours (Just gotta type it out, because people on guru seem to question EVERYTHING)

Work = 8 hours
Sleep = 8 hours
Free Time = 8 hours

Now, you also have to eat, drive back home, go shopping, do this do that (+ you have vacations, you have free days, you have shopping days, and this and that), so let's stick with a, average:

Free Time = 7 Hours

Now, spending 2-3 hours a day, is pretty much spending half your free time on GW.
I myself, a student, have more free time, and I spend more time on GW. (Lately, it has slacked alot due to Anet saying "f*ck you" to the community

)
I myself have 4000+ account hours, so I don't concider myself having more of a life than he does. We're both somewhere in between, with the difference that he spend most his time actually working on his schedule, whilst I focused way more (3000+hours) on PvP, and offcourse my LS + LDoA monk

Esan · May 28, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

i don't consider myself good, if i was good i would be playing in any decent gvg guilds as that's what i consider guild wars about

[...]
I never bought fow armor in 2 years because i didn't like it.

I think I'm falling in love with you. Bravo for defying the stereotypes -- you might be the first GWAMM I can respect.

Thizzle · May 28, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Yeah, I was thinking this guy has no life, but then I thought once more. These titles aren't that hard to obtain. If you'd had a character for three years there shouldn't be a problem getting KoABD r6, but the PvP titles I think would take a good amount of dedication. Well, depends if he was real skilled and could win GvG, HA, and other things easy. I've haven't seen many people walking around with max gladiator, champion, or even hero. Anyway I'm not going to be one of those and say "blah blah you do nothing else", but seriously how did you get your champion maxed? It says in the picture 36 titles max and the last you need is the Zaishen Key one. I was just wondering so post back if you can.

Drop of Fear · May 28, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

champion maxed? i have a wondrous 0 champion points...

Morgoth the dark · May 28, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

champion maxed? i have a wondrous 0 champion points...

and say hello to pvp titles

Pleikki · May 28, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Drop hasnt got any PvP titles maxed neither does anyone. Btw Drop when you were in CAT fighting VS sins i was in sins ^^ good ol' times

Im Unbreakable · May 28, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35

well considering Legendary Defender of Ascalon and Legendary Survivor are like fire and water, i know you cant get *ALL* maxed titles.

Killed u man · May 28, 2008, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by Im Unbreakable

well considering Legendary Defender of Ascalon and Legendary Survivor are like fire and water, i know you cant get *ALL* maxed titles.

Lol, 2 Stacks of ecto's says U can... -Yes, I am willing to take an official bet xD-